Putovanje za vreme i posle koronavirusa

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Mozda bi trebalo prosiriti ovu temu na: putovanja za vreme koronavirusa i rata u Ukrajini posto oba faktora jako negativno deluju na putovanja. Rat je ucinio jednu veliku zonu sveta nepreporucljivom za putovanja, ne samo Rusiju i Ukrajinu, vec i okolne zemlje jer su susedi preplavljeni izbeglicama, na granicama su guzve i povecane sigurnosne mere, ukratko daleko je od idealnog za putovanja iz razbibrige. I tek cemo da vidimo u kolikoj meri ce rat uticati na cenu avio karata i ostalog transporta zbog visih cena energenata. 

Kada je rec o Kovidu meshano meso, negde ogranicenja popustaju, drugde se menjaju i cak postaju gora kao sto smo videli na primeru Tajlanda. 

Jos nisu dosla vremena bezbriznih putovanja, a moguce da ce dugorocno postati i gore ako konflikt u Ukrajini preraste u novi hladni rat. 

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3 hours ago, noskich said:

Mozda bi trebalo prosiriti ovu temu na: putovanja za vreme koronavirusa i rata u Ukrajini posto oba faktora jako negativno deluju na putovanja. Rat je ucinio jednu veliku zonu sveta nepreporucljivom za putovanja, ne samo Rusiju i Ukrajinu, vec i okolne zemlje jer su susedi preplavljeni izbeglicama, na granicama su guzve i povecane sigurnosne mere, ukratko daleko je od idealnog za putovanja iz razbibrige. I tek cemo da vidimo u kolikoj meri ce rat uticati na cenu avio karata i ostalog transporta zbog visih cena energenata. 

Kada je rec o Kovidu meshano meso, negde ogranicenja popustaju, drugde se menjaju i cak postaju gora kao sto smo videli na primeru Tajlanda. 

Jos nisu dosla vremena bezbriznih putovanja, a moguce da ce dugorocno postati i gore ako konflikt u Ukrajini preraste u novi hladni rat. 

nisam jos video da su mere negde postale gore, sem na tajlandu...znaci to je za sad jedinstven primer u svetu, uglavnom su mere ili znatno olaksane , u smislu da je samo potreban pcr test ili antigenski test pre dolaska u odredjenu zemlju, ili ko ima vakcinu njemu ne treba ni test, ili nisu menjane odranije....takodje je dosta zemalja ukinulo sve mere, a mislim da karantin nema vise niko, sem izuzev nekoliko ostrva u pacifiku, i tajlanda naravno...ima par zemalja poput kine i japana koje jos uvek ne dozvoljavaju ulazak turista....

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Ne znam bas da li možeš tako blanko da generalizujes. Putovanje u Indoneziju recimo takodje ne deluje primamljivo u ovom trenutku: https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/asia/bali/bali-travel-the-brutal-hidden-cost-you-need-to-be-across/news-story/dd98178d4d84453782e08f685c3da6d7?

Despite the island having opened its borders to international tourists on February 4, Indonesia is yet to reinstate its visa on arrival (VOA) program. Currently the only visa available is a B211A visa, more widely known as a business visa.

You need to apply for this through the Indonesian consulate or a visa agency before you fly. Having lived in Bali on and off since 2016, I’m familiar with this visa, as it allowed me to stay on the island for longer periods of time.

As things stand, travellers will need to pay at least AUD$300 per person for a visa to enter to Bali. The cost of this category of visa is considerably high, especially if you’re only planning a short stay in Bali.

PS Videh sad da su promenili, nije više 300 nego 50, ali opet Kovid rizik: https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/asia/bali/what-happens-if-i-test-positive-to-covid-when-i-arrive-in-bali/news-story/5a955676f7c67e6dd3a4b4b33cbee54a

Most importantly, Bali has lifted its hotel quarantine for triple-vaxxed arrivals on a ‘trial’ basis and is now offering a visa on arrival (VOA) for around AUD$50.

As well as undergoing the usual pre-flight COVID testing, travellers will be tested on arrival at Bali international airport, as well as during their stay. So let’s talk about the elephant in the room.

Here’s what could happen if you test positive to COVID in Bali.

As part of the safety measures, travellers will need to provide proof of payment of at least three night’s consecutive accommodation at a Cleanliness, Health, Safety and Environment Sustainability (CHSE)-certified hotel, and a list of the venues organised by area can be found here.

You’ll also need to undergo at least three PCR tests during your stay in Bali, first on arrival at the airport, one three days later and a final test before your journey home. Proof of COVID travel insurance with a minimum coverage of AUD$21,000 is a requirement of travel.

According to official documents, if the traveller is asymptomatic or has only mild symptoms, they’ll be taken to an isolation facility for 10 days, where they’ll be tested again on day five or six.

Sve u svemu daleko od sjajne situacije, a tako je u velikom broju zemalja nažalost.

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9 hours ago, noskich said:

Ne znam bas da li možeš tako blanko da generalizujes. Putovanje u Indoneziju recimo takodje ne deluje primamljivo u ovom trenutku: https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/asia/bali/bali-travel-the-brutal-hidden-cost-you-need-to-be-across/news-story/dd98178d4d84453782e08f685c3da6d7?

Despite the island having opened its borders to international tourists on February 4, Indonesia is yet to reinstate its visa on arrival (VOA) program. Currently the only visa available is a B211A visa, more widely known as a business visa.

You need to apply for this through the Indonesian consulate or a visa agency before you fly. Having lived in Bali on and off since 2016, I’m familiar with this visa, as it allowed me to stay on the island for longer periods of time.

As things stand, travellers will need to pay at least AUD$300 per person for a visa to enter to Bali. The cost of this category of visa is considerably high, especially if you’re only planning a short stay in Bali.

PS Videh sad da su promenili, nije više 300 nego 50, ali opet Kovid rizik: https://www.escape.com.au/destinations/asia/bali/what-happens-if-i-test-positive-to-covid-when-i-arrive-in-bali/news-story/5a955676f7c67e6dd3a4b4b33cbee54a

Most importantly, Bali has lifted its hotel quarantine for triple-vaxxed arrivals on a ‘trial’ basis and is now offering a visa on arrival (VOA) for around AUD$50.

As well as undergoing the usual pre-flight COVID testing, travellers will be tested on arrival at Bali international airport, as well as during their stay. So let’s talk about the elephant in the room.

Here’s what could happen if you test positive to COVID in Bali.

As part of the safety measures, travellers will need to provide proof of payment of at least three night’s consecutive accommodation at a Cleanliness, Health, Safety and Environment Sustainability (CHSE)-certified hotel, and a list of the venues organised by area can be found here.

You’ll also need to undergo at least three PCR tests during your stay in Bali, first on arrival at the airport, one three days later and a final test before your journey home. Proof of COVID travel insurance with a minimum coverage of AUD$21,000 is a requirement of travel.

According to official documents, if the traveller is asymptomatic or has only mild symptoms, they’ll be taken to an isolation facility for 10 days, where they’ll be tested again on day five or six.

Sve u svemu daleko od sjajne situacije, a tako je u velikom broju zemalja nažalost.

vesti su malo bajate, ovo su najnovije https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/what-are-indonesias-latest-guidelines-on-international-travel/

ali ok, ovo testiranje po dolasku na aerodrm nije bilo u prvobitnom planu otvaranja koji je predocen pre oko 2 nedelje

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14 hours ago, bam-bam said:

vesti su malo bajate, ovo su najnovije https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/what-are-indonesias-latest-guidelines-on-international-travel/

ali ok, ovo testiranje po dolasku na aerodrm nije bilo u prvobitnom planu otvaranja koji je predocen pre oko 2 nedelje

Prema ovom linku u Indoneziju mogu da putuju drzavljani oko 40-ak zemalja i to samo na dve lokacije unutar Indonezije. Pri tome moraju da placaju za vizu, sto pre Kovida nije bio slucaj za vecinu pasosa razvijenih zemalja. Plus moraju da urade PCR i pre i posle leta, plate specijalan hotel dok ne dobiju rezultat i imaju jako putno osiguranje. To je minimum ako sve prodje u najboljem redu. A ako se zakomplikuje  moguca su horor scenarija, 10 dana karantina u hotelu.

Sve u svemu, ne verujem da ima mnogo putnika kojima ce ovakvi uslovi odgovarati. Ja se licno ne bih upustao u to. 

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17 hours ago, noskich said:

Prema ovom linku u Indoneziju mogu da putuju drzavljani oko 40-ak zemalja i to samo na dve lokacije unutar Indonezije. Pri tome moraju da placaju za vizu, sto pre Kovida nije bio slucaj za vecinu pasosa razvijenih zemalja. Plus moraju da urade PCR i pre i posle leta, plate specijalan hotel dok ne dobiju rezultat i imaju jako putno osiguranje. To je minimum ako sve prodje u najboljem redu. A ako se zakomplikuje  moguca su horor scenarija, 10 dana karantina u hotelu.

Sve u svemu, ne verujem da ima mnogo putnika kojima ce ovakvi uslovi odgovarati. Ja se licno ne bih upustao u to. 

ja prvi put cujem za sve te uslove...ok, uglavnom svi oko mene pricaju o ulasku na bali i uslovima, moguce da je drugacije, da su bali izdvojili kao turisticku destinaciju i olaksali ulazak....ali koliko znam, svi mogu da putuju u indoneziju od pre 15ak dana, samo sto treba cim za vizu u ambasadi....ne znam kakvo je stanje sa srbijom, posto nama nije trebala ni visa on arrival, a po sajtovima pise da su ukinute te VOA i da te zemlje moraju sad da vede vizu u ambasadi

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10 hours ago, bam-bam said:

ja prvi put cujem za sve te uslove...ok, uglavnom svi oko mene pricaju o ulasku na bali i uslovima, moguce da je drugacije, da su bali izdvojili kao turisticku destinaciju i olaksali ulazak....ali koliko znam, svi mogu da putuju u indoneziju od pre 15ak dana, samo sto treba cim za vizu u ambasadi....ne znam kakvo je stanje sa srbijom, posto nama nije trebala ni visa on arrival, a po sajtovima pise da su ukinute te VOA i da te zemlje moraju sad da vede vizu u ambasadi

Kako prvi put čuješ kad to sve piše na linku koji si ti postavio ovde?

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Da li je neko skoro išao za Maroko, i još bitnije, aplicirao van SRB?

Zvanični podaci na sajtu su 4 meseca matori tako da je moguće da PCR i antigen više nisu moranje?

A aplicirala bih u Španiji ili Portugalu kada budem stigla dole pošto idem polako, kopnom.

Ako je neko skoro bio, molim vas, ažurirajte situaciju : )

Hvala!

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I mene interesuje Italija, Španija, Porugalija.

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Za Španiju vam samo treba digitalni EU zeleni sertifikat sa sajta eUprave. Maske su obavezne i dalje u javnom prevozu, apotekama i bolnicama.

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Mene je vise interesovalo kako funkcionise apliciranje za vizu za Maroko van Srbije, ali hvala na ovoj informaciji, nisam znala da ista treba za Spaniju.

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@Aki Izvini 😕 Ja sam video samo spisak zemalja pa sam odmah pomislio da mislite na ulaz u zemlju.

 

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all good ^^ znacila nam je informacija, nego vau, do sad sam od holandskog konzulata saznala da ne izdaju vize ljudima koji su non-citizen :v nadam se da situacija nije takva i u Spaniji recimo... 

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To je slučaj sa mnogim konzulatima, izdaju vize samo rezidentima zemlje za koju je konzulat nadležan.

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23 hours ago, chivitli said:

To je slučaj sa mnogim konzulatima, izdaju vize samo rezidentima zemlje za koju je konzulat nadležan.

Upravo tako. Međutim, često može i ako nemaš boravište: u tom slučaju, potrebno je "pismo preporuke" koje ti izda tvoj konzulat, i onda sa tim ideš u konzulat zemlje čiju vizu tražiš. 

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Ako ja dobro razumem, za Australiju ili USA dovoljno je imati dve doze Pfizer vakcine, nebitno ako je proslo godinu dana od druge doze?

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